{"id":2718,"date":"2016-02-22T13:45:14","date_gmt":"2016-02-22T13:45:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/?p=2718"},"modified":"2016-02-23T17:07:20","modified_gmt":"2016-02-23T17:07:20","slug":"vote-remain-or-the-cat-gets-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/?p=2718","title":{"rendered":"Vote \u2018Remain\u2019&#8230; Or The Cat Gets It!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/?attachment_id=2720\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-2720\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2720\" src=\"http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/catgun-224x300.jpg\" alt=\"catgun\" width=\"224\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/catgun-224x300.jpg 224w, http:\/\/www.visitgalicia.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/catgun.jpg 717w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 224px) 100vw, 224px\" \/><\/a>I&#8217;m not one for getting political on here&#8230;but my hand has now been forced.<\/p>\n<p>Over the next four months (yes we\u2019re going to have to put up with just one news story for the next third of a year) I am sure that you will hear a lot of convincing arguments from both the \u2018remain\u2019 and \u2018leave\u2019 campaigns on the European Union debate.<\/p>\n<p>As a couple of ex-pats who have made their home in Spain we\u2019ve already nailed our colours to the mast by embracing Europe, and all that is European, so you would be right in expecting that we\u2019ll both be backing the \u2018remain\u2019 campaign.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d be happy to sit down with anyone over a decent bottle of malt whisky and explain at length why I believe that it is not only the right decision for me and the two million other ex-pats residing in Europe, but also for those of you who live in the UK, to vote \u2018remain\u2019. There are many good reasons why the UK should remain, and very few valid (non-hysterical) reasons why it should leave, but in the interests of brevity I\u2019m just going to pick up seven, admittedly mostly very personal reasons, why the UK should \u2018remain\u2019.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Illegal Aliens<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Should the UK vote to leave Europe then any, and every,\u00a0UK citizen living and working within Europe would lose all of their rights to be in that country. Although the details of what would happen have not been ironed out (and can\u2019t be until the vote has been cast), for Amanda and myself, it would likely mean that overnight we would become illegal aliens and be subject to a rapid and forced deportation back to England until we could successfully apply for residence and work visas.<\/p>\n<p>Given my self-employed status and Amanda\u2019s part-time\/temporary work in Spain then it is highly unlikely that we\u2019d be granted anything other than tourist visas. We would be able to return to Spain for occasional holidays, but not as permanent residents. \u00a0We wouldn\u2019t be alone, there would literally be a million other ex-pats in Spain like us, all needing UK housing, UK health care (which pensioners would no longer be entitled to in Spain), and UK state benefits until we find our feet on the newly flooded employment market.<\/p>\n<p>There would, of course, be some jobs available due to the expulsion of between two and three million Europeans who had made their lives in the UK. Doctors, nurses, teachers, academics, the guys who clean your car so cheaply, make your hotel beds and serve your burgers would all be packing their bags and going back to their country of origin to queue outside the British embassy in the hope of getting a UK working visa.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Bankruptcy<\/span><\/p>\n<p>With one million other ex-pats being expelled from Spain and their property hitting the open market, along with the horrendous state of the property market here, we would be unlikely to sell the property into which we have sunk our life savings, leaving us homeless and potentially bankrupt.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Relying on UK Benefits<\/span><\/p>\n<p>We would have to find somewhere to live in the UK, possibly having to rely on state handouts to do so, and joining a queue of up to two million other UK citizens who currently reside elsewhere in Europe, who are all in the same boat. \u00a0We would be back as a burden on the UK health care system and at least initially we\u2019d have to seek benefits just to live day to day.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Flooding the UK Job Market\/Ranks of the Unemployed<\/span><\/p>\n<p>We\u2019d have to jump back in the UK job market looking to take professional jobs that we don\u2019t really want, from those who really need them.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Loss of Freedom<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Both ourselves, my brother-in-law (who lives and works in the middle east) and one of Amandas\u2019 cousins (America) have decided to make our lives and livings outside the UK. In our adopted countries we are the exact same immigrants who are attracting the uninformed hatred and vitriol in the UK which fuels the \u2018leave\u2019 campaigns arguments. We believe in the freedom of movement and the freedom to work overseas that the \u2018leave\u2019 supporters wish to remove.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The Cat Gets It<\/span><\/p>\n<p>As we\u2019d be forced back to the UK at short notice, and with an end to free travel to the UK for pets (due to the cancellation of EU pet passports scheme), we\u2019d have to try and find a new home for our cat Kit, or as there is no shortage of cats here, we\u2019d have to have our perfectly healthy cat put to sleep.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The Benefits\/Jobs Contradiction<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Those supporting the exit from Europe will always come to rest on two contradictory arguments. <em>\u2018Johnny foreigner coming over here and taking our jobs\u2019 <\/em>and <em>\u2018Johnny foreigner coming over here and taking our benefits\u2019<\/em>.\u00a0 With the odd exception which gets picked up on by the right wing press, these are mostly fallacy.<\/p>\n<p>There are two distinct types of jobs which those from Europe residing the UK undertake. These are either the professional jobs for which there is a shortage in the native UK workforce (doctors, nurses, surgeons, teachers and academics) or those who will do the jobs for minimum wage which the workshy endemic population won\u2019t touch (shop work, restaurant waiting on, farm labour, cleaning), preferring to stay at home on their benefits and watch Jeremy Kyle.<\/p>\n<p>The benefits issue is one of the UKs own making and one which it can un-make while still a part of the European Community. The benefits which the UK has set are to its own rules, and these rules differ in every other state of the Union. In Spain for example, there is no child benefit, unemployment benefit ends after a year, and there is no free medical care. If you\u2019ve not paid into the social security system then you are entitled to absolutely no benefits. Here as British citizens we are treated exactly the same as a Spaniard is treated, and there in a nutshell lies the problem. European law demands that within Europe any European citizen is treated in the same way as that countries national. Change the UK benefits system for all and it would eradicate the perceived \u2018benefit migrant problem\u2019 in a heartbeat.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If the vote in four months\u2019 time results in a \u2018leave\u2019 then essentially our dream would be over and our lives turned totally upside down. We\u2019d likely have lost everything that we\u2019ve worked so hard for over the last twenty-five years and would have to start over. Since moving to Spain fifteen months ago we\u2019ve been happier, healthier and more relaxed than at any other time in our lives, but a vote for \u2018leave\u2019 will almost certainly take all of that away from us.<\/p>\n<p>So next time you feel like supporting Nigel Farage, Michael Gove or Boris Johnson (or any other obnoxious right wing politician) just take a second to think what it will actually mean on a personal level to the lives of the two million ex-pats who will have to flood back to the UK.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t just take my word for it. Take a look at these other comments;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/eulawanalysis.blogspot.com.es\/2014\/05\/what-happens-to-british-expatriates-if.html\">What Happens to British Ex-Pats If&#8230;.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vice.com\/read\/this-is-what-could-happen-to-british-expats-if-the-uk-leaves-the-eu-998\">This is what could happen if Britain Leaves the European Union<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theafterword.co.uk\/brexit-and-eu-expats\/\">Brexit and EU Expats<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/votes-for-expat-brits-blog.com\/2015\/03\/19\/brexit-impacts-2-million-expat-brits-as-well\/\">Brexit Impacts 2 Million Ex-Pat Brits as Well<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wort.lu\/en\/politics\/eu-referendum-fate-of-uk-expats-in-case-of-brexit-unclear-54bf8aff0c88b46a8ce51e0f\">Fate of UK Expats in Case of &#8216;Brexit&#8217; Unclear<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.virtualvienna.net\/brexit\/\">What Would Happen to ex-pats if Britain Left the EU?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rt.com\/uk\/242149-brexit-illegal-immigrants-attorney\/\">Brexit Would Turn 2 Million Brits Abroad into Illegal Immigrants &#8211; ex-Attorney General<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spanishnewstoday.com\/expats-in-spain-unsettled-by-referendum-on-brexit_32396-a.html\">Ex-pats in Spain Unsettled by Referendum on Brexit<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Footnote:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It has been mentioned that in the case of a &#8216;Brexit&#8217; we would be offered protection in Spain under the &#8216;Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969&#8217;, however, this\u00a0would not apply in our case as we have not met the accrued rights of having been resident in Spain for at least five years.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m not one for getting political on here&#8230;but my hand has now been forced. 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